Self-Reflection 3 – Maks Mashkivskyy

– My interviewee was a Swiss Pedagogy Master Student – Carmen, whom I met through a friend of a friend – early in my exchange. She agreed to meet me at the Polyterrasse Bar BQM, and answer a few questions about her Swiss heritage and her understanding of the Swiss culture.
– When we first met, she was energetic and looked relaxed. Prior to me starting, she reinforced what she already mentioned multiple times – that she isn’t exactly across all Swiss cultural norms and traditions, but will help me nonetheless.
– I prepared a standard set of questions I was seeking to ask her, but otherwise intended for the interview to be informal and unstructured. In doing so I was hoping to raise interesting insights through the prepared questions, and then to sway away from the structured interview, to hone down on the insights by asking follow-up questions
– The first few prepared questions were very standard to get Carmen to relax and open-up more.
– When we started, she responded in single words or very brief sentences. This had me slightly nervous as we were burning through the first 5 standard questions I prepared in less than 3 min. „Where were you born?“, Which country do you live? How long have you lived in Switzerland for? What do you study? Do you enjoy living in Switzerland?
– To slow her down and get her to talk in more detail, I prompted Carmen with the question „do you want to elaborate on that?“
– The real jackpot occurred when she mentioned about her exchange experience in California during High School. I used this experience of hers to help her highlight the cultural aspects unique to the Swiss, having lived in another, drastically different culture for that long. I was hence trying to understand which elements of her exchange, delivered the greatest culture shock.
– Many times when reflecting over her exchange experience she mentioned she could not quiet remember – but my strategy was paying off. She began reflecting in elaborate details of her most vivid memories of the large cars or „trucks“ as the Americans refer to them, religiousness and conservatism, overconsumption, patriotism and lack of cultural awareness.
At this point, the interview was very informal and I began to sense she was opening up and being less formal then at the beginning of the interview. The overall conversation lasted about 25 minutes. I told Carmen I had enough and we both parted our ways.

Application of Method 3 – Maks Mashkivskyy

– I’ve met with Carmen at the Pollyterrasse Bar on Friday at 4pm after her class.
Which I would like to see at the end of the interview, which I would like to see at the end of the interview to intently and not to formulate a follow-up question in time.
– The setting was informal and social and attempted to remove a factor of artificiality from the interview.
Carmen was speaking, so I pulled out my phone and recorded everything instead ,
– My interview was initially structured, where I hoped. Although an interview with a friend, I found this method to be very appropriate.
– Although the premise of this activity was to interview a stranger, I found issues with this for multiple reasons. Firstly, it would be
resorted to a friend to submit herself for a half-hour discussion on her origins, which and I both enjoyed and did not find daunting (at least I hoped).

Ethnographic Vignette 3 – Maks Mashkivskyy

• Throughout the course, the focus is oriented towards understanding. In fact, Switzerland does not exist within a physical realm. Given that the country has acquired so many traditions, language and culture from its neighboring countries – one may question Switzerland does not have its own unique identity.
• Although the first two of my works have been largely focused on the Swiss society, and in particular among a younger generation of adults to gather their behavior in public places – the third work took a sharp contrast to focus on the Swiss identity at large – by other than the swiss themselves, on what they are who defines who they are.
What is it for? What does it mean to be a member of my generation, or nonetheless?
• My discussions with Carmen on an exchange semester in high school. This experience helps to understand the unique aspects of the Swiss culture.
• The Drastic Differences in Peoples Public Behavior, Sense of Public Duty, Neatness, Pompousness and Inherent Cultural Awareness, Including the Knowledge of Multiple Languages ​​highlighting yes, the Swiss Do in fact has a unique cultural identity and Switzerland as a nation has emerged beyond a sheet amalgamation of territories and language of its neighboring states, into its own unique culture.
• I asked Carmen if all Swiss felt this way about themselves? if say, I asked another Carmen from Geneva the same questions? Carmen would be French – she too would share the behavior and cultural norms of the German Carmen I interviewed – because the rural areas are as existent in the French part as they are in the German part.
• In other words, Switzerland has become more than the sum of its individual parts and managed to develop a unique culture deep within itself. The norms it developed in help it maintain a distinct and separate image in the world. La Suisse existe!

Self Reflection – Erika Sato

It was very easy for me to interview females my age, and I believe they were more supportive knowing it was school work. Before finding them, it was a struggle for me to find someone to interview for, when everyone was rushing past in the cold weather. People were unwilling to stop by and have a chat with a stranger, they were more focused on their business and they all seem to have limited time.

After finding someone to interview, it made everything so much easier. I was lucky to find students my age, who were willing to help me out, knowing the struggle in these class works. They were German speakers, sometimes having trouble with their limited vocabulary, which I found it making the interview much more complicated than it should be. By not being able to use their native language, I saw that the two girls were avoiding answers that they cannot explaining in English.  If this was in German, I believe they were more talkative, and more better in explaining what they think. Especially when they tried to explain the swiss identity, they were more likely to come up with German words but not know or cannot come up with a direct translation.

The hardest part for me throughout the interview was to not lead the interviewees to a specific answer that I want to hear. When they would ask me what the questions meant or what kind of answer I was looking for in these questions, I had struggles finding another way in presenting the questions without changing the meaning and to not lead them to biased answers. I could not possibly give an example of the answers, nor could I ask further specified questions; I would always continue on making it vague and open ended.

Furthermore, as a foreign student as the interviewer, I believe that some of the answers were to explain more about the stereotypical Swissness. In other words, they were more focusing on what foreigners think of Swiss, rather than what they identify themselves normally just in the country. For example, if I was asked about Japan from an European, I would describe Japan as the most prominent and basic characteristics; „Sushi, Politeness, and Anime“. On the other hand, if I was interviewed by a Chinese, I would be more focusing on the details of Japanese culture such as „Shinto-ism, Humble, and Conservative“.  This would also apply as well if a interviewer from the same country as myself was asking these questions, I would be more likely to go specifically into the details since I know that they are knowledgeable in the topic. Thus, I believe these answers would be unintentionally focused on the stereotypical Swiss, which would not be exactly coming from the Swiss thoughts, more from the template of what foreigners identify Swiss.

Ethnographic vignette – Samir Ait Chrif

After walking around Rosenhof for 15 minutes and having heard several polite ‘no sorry’ ‘s to my interview requests my attention fell for an elderly woman walking slowly. She did not seem to be in a hurry which gave me the feeling that this could be a potential interview. She agreed on helping me.

She was 56-years old and moved from Germany to Zwitserland 30 years ago with her husband. She has lived in Zurich since then.

Words that in her opinion described Switzerland would be, beautiful, expensive, home.

She told me that me loves travelling and has been in most parts of Switzerland. Switzerland is full of beautiful landscapes. When visiting family in Germany once in a while, she clearly notices the difference in prices overall between Switzerland and other foreign countries. She associates Switzerland with home because she has lived there most of her life and found her own place within the community, something that was hard for her when she first moved to Zurich.

Tolerance and neutrality were words that she used to describe the Swiss identity. In her opinion Swiss people are highly tolerant in general and mostly neutral. Not only the individuals but also the country itself from an international political point of view.

She associates the Swiss culture with the different festivals in Switzerland. Throughout the whole year there are several weeks dedicated each to with their own theme. Such as a film festival of the spring festival in Zurich.

My interviewee told me that she and her husband take part in the carnival festival each year. In february Swiss people celebrate carnival by dressing up in customes and with different kinds of music. These customs represent Swiss to a certain extent as Switzerland in her opinion is also a country of freedom which these customs emphasize. On the other hand she described a weird festival in which people throw sausages, which she believed was hard to understand for non-swiss people.

Finally, in her opinion Swiss people are perceived by foreigners as boring and bureaucratic.

This interview has made her look at her own national identity and culture in a more  criticizing way. This helped her own understanding and her identity in the society.

Self reflection – Samir Ait Chrif

The interview was the only assignment with direct interaction with people. In the past assignment we had taken pictures of people rather than go and have a talk with them. Finding someone to conduct my interview was quite hard and took me some time. Some people politely said no while others told me they were in a hurry.

While conducting the interview I aimed to make people feel comfortable by laughing with them and having conversations not related to the topic with them. This would enlarge the chance of getting reliable honest data. Furthermore I had to make the decision on how to take notes of the interview. I could either record the interview or write down quick notes that would help me later. I decided that writing notes on my phone would be the best option. I think that people knowing you are recording them might not make people feel comfortable and possibly even the change the potential answers on certain questions.

Discussion and application of methods – Samir Ait Chrif

In this class we have discussed the concept of ‘La Suisse n’existe pas’. This translates to Switzerland does not exist. This sentence summarizes the idea about Switzerland not being known for its uniformity but rather its variety in a small country. In Switzerland there are four spoken languages. Furthermore there are cultural differences between big cities and more rural areas. Most of them with their own regional traditions. Besides, each of these groups can have their own perception of the Swiss identity.

In this assignment we had to conduct an interview with someone passing by. Before going to Rosenhof, I had taken a look at the questions and tried to imagine what kind of person would be best suited to help me find clear answers to my questions. It had to be someone who has lived for a longtime in Switzerland and is familiar with the culture. During my interview I decided to take notes on my phone rather than recording. Recording might scare people off or influence their answers on my questions.

Discussion and Application Method – Erika Sato

The goal of the project was to find the Swiss identity through interviewing them with certain questions. This interview took place in mid-day of Rosenhof market. The questions were pre-made by the class, the following 9 questions;

  1. Warm-up / introduction questions
  2. What are the first 3 words that come to your mind when you think of Switzerland?
  3. What is your idea of Swiss identity?
  4. What would you consider some typical Swiss customs might be?
  5. What are some of the cultural customs that you do?
  6. Do you think that these customs represent being Swiss?
  7. What customs do you think may be difficult to understand for foreigners?
  8. What do you think foreigners think of Swiss people?
  9. Has this interview made you more aware of your identity?

Adding on for the further to the questions, I have an additional question about there answers;

  1. Why do you think you focused on positive answers rather than the negative? Was it intentional?

This question was added for further research of the unconscious Swiss identity. There was a pattern in the answers being positive,  more focusing on the good sides of the Swiss. I was wondering where this nationalism was coming from; whether if this was intentional or unintentional, and also if this is „normal“ for Swiss.

The interview took place in the outskirts of the area, to a group of two female students. The interview was briefly 10 minutes, with not only answers said, but also discussions in German between the two girls. They would discuss it first about what answers they want to give or what German words they don’t know in English. There were times when they used google translation, no internet searching was used other than that. The answers were noted down on my phone.

Ethnographic Vignette – Erika Sato

Ethnographic Vignette

 

It was a cloudy afternoon in Rosenhof market, with people walking pass through the Christmas markets, and others choosing to stop by. It was quite crowded considering the time; right after lunch for students from the central library and workers near the area having a break from their work. The cold gloomy weather was suited for the warm drinks, where I found two female students sitting in the outskirts of the area cuddling with their drinks.

As I walked up to them, they seemed very confused with the situation. At first, they thought I was asking for direction, probably because I had my phone in my hand. The interview itself went very smoothly, as they understood that I was an exchange student who needed help. They were very welcoming with each questions, and very interested in the questions that our class came up with. To start off, they were in the shy state, but as I asked further questions to add on to their answers, they were more willing to put in the details into their answers.

  1. Warm-up / introduction questions
  • Where are you from? Swiss/non-Swiss
  • Could you specify where? Kanton/ Place?

Swiss, kanton St.Gallen, widnau

  1. What are the first 3 words that come to your mind when you think of Switzerland?

Why do you connect these words with Switzerland?

Chocolate, cheese, racalette
Because Switzerland is known for them.
Extra question: Why are they all food?
The taste is not the same, for example, chocolate in different country tastes different. And yes, I do prefer swiss chocolate

  1. What is your idea of Swiss identity?

Being open-minded, democratic, opportunities, equality, and having good education

  1. What would you consider some typical Swiss customs might be?

Being on time, politeness, respect, freedom of speech,
Putting importance on the harmony of the community because it is a neutral country

  1. What are some of the cultural customs that you do?
    Aug 1, celebrate the country, firework, national holiday with no school, spend time with family and friends
    bugg, for farmrs, creature made by straws (witch or scarcrow), fire it to have the bad things go away and have a good harvest,
    knowing the legend, meeting up in occasions
    Why important? The WW2 the unity did not have, decided to value the adv for neuturality, elders do not know that it is not true, not value as much
  2. Do you think that these customs represent being Swiss?
    yes
  3. What customs do you think may be difficult to understand for foreigners?
    The legend of 1 Aug never happened, so some foreigners might not understand it.
    It is very hard to answer this question because I feel like our culture has a lot of similarities to other culture, so it doesn’t seem to be that distinctive enough to be not understood.
    Typical Swiss would be food, ski, hiking, but other countries does that as well
  4. What do you think foreigners think of Swiss people?
    Being on-time, responsible, rich, but also having a lot of farmers, characters like Heidi would be the symbolic representation showing the swiss life in the alps with their cows, beautiful scenery green nature, architecture, public transportation
  5. Has this interview made you more aware of your identity?

Less, because I cant think of the customs!
I don’t think that I’m aware about what makes them different from others
The only clear difference would be the systems, I guess

11. You only mentioned good things, why?

Not that of a bad thing, problem patriotic parties would be the biggest problem, new “natzi generation”, but the new highlight a lot more about problems of the foreigners (at least more picked up), more than the problems made by swiss.

I guess it is very usual to have a conversation about our country with swiss based only on the bright sides, we feel that other countries has it worst

 

 

Throughout the interview, I have noticed that the “swiss identity” that they would bring up is more on the positive side. They were never negative about their answers, especially when they were explaining about the Bugg. Explaining some facts about the countryside, I did not see any sense of shame against their tradition or how is it like in the country side.(At least in Japan, people would be more likely to make fun of the less developed areas, even if they are originally from there.) I had an extra question, asking them if they intentionally focused on the positive sides because I was an exchange student. I thought that there could be a possibility that they felt the need to show their pride for their country to a foreigner who does not know much about Switzerland. The answer was no, they explained that it would be very common for Swiss to talk about good things about their country, mostly because they are aware that they are “pretty lucky”, compared to the other countries. These would include, the social systems, the culture, and the people in Switzerland.

Ethnographic vignette

What I wanted to show with these pictures is basically two different ways of living in Switzerland. We all know Switzerland has an old farming tradition as well as of course, creating Swiss watches.
I see plenty of differences between living of watches and living out of farming. Since I’m lucky enough to experience both, I decided to show it to you.
The first picture’s hands belong to a family’s friend who owns and works at a ‘Mühle Heiterthal’  (Mill) and the second set of hands belong to my grandma, who owns and works at a Jewellery shop.
The first picture, shows a pair of hands which may look a bit dirty, with a pic of broken nails, some scratches… but what we can observe from these hands is not only that they’ve spent a lot of time working, but also that the fact of having hands looking ‘messy’ is not a problem. It is a style of living where having French manicure done is absolutely not a priority. How I see it working on a farm or a Mill is something that you inherit from your family and therefor maintain the tradition. The ‚Mühle‘ just had its 100 years birthday, fully ruled and owned by the same family. When I asked her about her hands and why they looked so messy the answer was I don’t have time to do any fancy thing with them, or rather I don’t care at all.
In the second set of hands, my grandma’s hands, we observe ‘flawless’ hands.
Probably coming from someone who didn’t have to work on a family’s farm but a Jewellery shop. Showing off hands with perfect manicure. She’s been working on the family’s Jewellery shop since she was around 25 years old and still does. The ‚Sutter Schmuck‘ shop is one of the references in the sector in the city of Winterthur and they won’t hesitate telling you the story while being hundred percent proud of it.

I thought this is a crude, nice example of Swiss society, where I get the feeling that everybody lives in dignity, but as in any other country we have some class differences